can he really stop?

Internet Porn Addiction

Hi, I am in shock at all of the posts I have read on this forum dealing with male porn addition. Everything I have read just hits so close to home it's scary.
My story goes something like this.......
My husband and I had dated since 04 and were recently married. He's a Marine and has been to war and has seen the world. I always wondered if I could be the one to make him happy, considering all he's seen and done. While we were just dating, I stumbled across an email on his computer from another woman. I was in horror. Yes, we were only dating, but I felt hurt and angry. And definitly betrayed. This email, and the others, were to and from women he had met at internet dating sites. I his replys, he was telling them what cars he drove, where he worked, blah and blah. And to top it off, he said that he was single, after recently being divorced from his ex-wife. aAll of which were true, except that he wasn't single, we were dating. Anyways, I got to looking around and found out that not only was he communicating with these women and putting himself out there as being avavilable, he had a profile (with pictures of him that I had taken at my house!) on several different sites, including a sexually explicit dating site. I also discovered that his computer's history was full ofporn websites. Mostly video clips. Looking back on it now, there were times when he would tell me he had to leave to go home because he had to "clean the house", or "he was tired", (alot of different reasons why he had to leave my house), especially in the morning when he would stay the night. He would get up saying he was late for work but of course, I would check his pc and the days when he said he was "doing this or that" or "had to get to work", he had actually went home and looked at porn for a couple hours. He would even come to my house for lunch, lie and say he had to get back to work, then he would go home and look at porn for another hour. Believe me, it was all I could do not to confront him on a daily basis because of the lies he was telling because of his addiction. But eventually we had it out and he said if it meant that much to me, because it didn't to him, he wouldn't do it anymore. But he said, and still does, to this day, that he just doesn't understand women. Guys should just be allowed to be guys. But he went on to apoligize saying that the dating sites were just for entertainment. We had been thru a tough time when we first got together and he wasn't sure if we would last or not, so it was just him seeing what else was out there in case we didn't. Oh, and did I forget, he said it was just entertainment. He cried, which marine's DON'T DO, and said that he would unsubscribe form the sites and would not get into that any more. He said he was sorry and that I was the one he wanted, so eventually, he made me "believe him" and I told him it would take awhile for me to trust him again.

After all that, I stopped seeing the porn sites until there were no more on the pc. But since then, my mind has not been right. I don't know if he's telling me the truth, or just what he knows I want to hear. And that goes for everything. I trust him, but only those times when I know for a fact that what he's saying or doing is the truth. Is that wrong of me? We got married for christ's sake and the consequences of everything he did, and I saw, make me question everything he does.
I also discovered a new addiction, one that he had kept hidden from me the entire time. masturbatiion. He was doing it AT LEAST three or four times a day. But he always tried to hide it from me. How did I know he was doing it you ask? Well, a couple of times, I would catch him in the act, but play it off like I didn't see it or know what he was doing, but mainly, he always ejaculated into a soke or something and either left it under the bed, or put it in his stack of dirty clothes. I know this sounds horrible, but once I knew he was doing it AND hiding the fact that he did it, along with the porn, and everyhting else, in my mind, he was lying to me about everything. So, I would check his laundry and to my amazement, he was doing it as often as I tought. He was even doing it at work, in his office, and bringing the soiled laundry home.
Well, I have spoken to him about it and again, he says he does it because he's a guy, and that's what guys do. He also says that he doesn't do it very often anymore, which I don't believe. I don't care that he does it every now and then but it really hurts me looking back on everything that has happened, to once again think, "What am I around for if he's got everything he needs on the pc, or in his sock drawer.
He hates talking about "our past", meaning what he put me thru. And he hates me asking him, on a daily basis, if he's "taken care of himself". So I promised I wouldn't ask anymore. But how can I forget? And how can I get thru the rest of our lives together without all of that gnawing on my brain? How am I supposed to ever feel that I'm the one person he truely wants and needs in his life if this is the sort of thing going on? I love him and have always tried to work our problems out. But I can't get everything he has done out of my head. I'm afraid he's going to get fed up with my insecurities and my trust issues and be done with us. Should I believe he HAS stopped it all completely? Even though I still get that "something isn't right feeling"??
Should I keep listening to my women's intuition?????? Or do I just feel that way beacuse of the residue of what happened in our past?

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I a way I kinda know what

I a way I kinda know what you have been through. My boyfriend of almost 10 years decided to send a naked pic of himself to a girl that we both used to work with, they were texting each other back and forth and e-mailing too. How I found all this out was 1 mortning when he was sleeping him phone started to beep so I checked it and there was a message from her so I checked the inbox and sent items, then I checked his emial when he wasn't in the house and he would say things to her that he would never say to me. This happened 2 years ago and I pulled him over hot coals on New Years Eve and the excuses I got were unblievable but everything he tried to lie to me about I came back with the proof that I had and in the end he couldn't answer a thing I said. I removed every single peice of info he had on her from his phone and his email and sent her a message "from him" to leave him alone and she hasn't never been in touch since.

If I were you I would go into his pc and put a password on it, you know the internet tools option were it will request a password for every site thats accessed (sorry can't remember how to do it now). You will know the next time he has lied to you when he gets frustrated about his computer not "working", its just kinda like you putting a parental control on it. You could always ask him how he would feel if the shoe was on the other foot and you were doing all that kind of stuff...bet he wouldn't be too pleased!

As for the masturbation side of things, don't get me wrong but it could just be that he has a higher sex drive than what you do, it could be his way of relaxing or releasing tension. Is you problem with him actually doing it or the way he "disposes" of it?

To be completely honest with you, even to this day I don't trust my boyfriend 100%, once that trust is betrayed I don't think you ever get it all back :(

Are you still with this

Are you still with this guy? I think that I would have said goodbye had my man did that with his ex. Or with any other girl for that matter. After what I've already been thru with him, that would just be too much. He knows I would immediatly end our relationship if he did anything close to that, especially now. And that the woman on the other end better watch her ass. I don't put up with home wrecking women anymore.

I agree with you about the trust. Even though I want to and try to trust him, I don't feel it 100%. Regardless if it's done and over and we don't discuss it anymore, I still can't get it out of my head. And whenever he says something or does eomething that just doesn't "jive" with me, the first thing I think is that I have to try to see if he's lying to me. Luckily, I've been proven wrong. Funny, I never thought I would get so much satisfaction about being wrong or proven wrong. But, now I feel like I'm the one doing the lying/ behind your back thing like him by having trying to prove when he's lying or not.
What's worse though? Always feeling that way and never knowing you COULD be wrong? Alot of women jump to conclusions, take it too far, and only come to find out later that what they thought really wasn't what was going on. I'll tak the being proven wrong....

After I confronted him about the porn for several weeks, he has so far stopped it at home. At least I have not found it for months. But then again, he's had very little oppourtunity to look at it as I am always here. I don't give him the chance and I won't ever. At least until I know he is past that "stage". And I don't think that he can access pornography at work. The military has filters on their pc's for just that thing, right? So, I'm not that concerned about the internet pornography now. He admits that the guys bring in their magazines, but I'm okay with that. I do feel THAT is a natural guy thing to do and he knows that that's his one "out" that I do allow.
He has always told me that he is an extremely visual person. He likes to look at women. Matter of fact, I get on him also for surfing the channels because it just seems like, that's what he's looking for. He also hides that. He will surf while I'm not in the room and find a girlie show (not porn) ...one that another guy would say he would never in a million years watch, like project runway for example, and then switch it really quick if he hears me coming. It's actually funny that he does it even though it drives me nuts. Because I KNOW what he's doing. How could a guy be THAT visual of a person??? Could he just be addicted to seeing women, naked or not????

Your opinion on the masturbating......hummmm. My problem with him doing it is that he hides it and I feel, why do it when I'm right here???
He could come home from work, have me practially humping his leg, blow me off saying he's tired, and then lay down for a nap and masturbate. That is just insane!! His reasoning is, it's something he can do and then he's done. He doesn't have to exert alot of energy, and he's done. I think that's about the craziest thing I've ever heard. Especially when he knows that I love to stimulate him orally. How much effort do you have to put into that!. So, my issue with all of that is, do I just not do it for him or something???? I mean if you put everything together that he does, how could someone not think, "why is he even with her? Why does he need her around?" That's how I feel, and I've told him that. He says I'm the one who's crazy.
I don't believe he has a higher sex drive than me. He's almost 12 years older. I went to the extent of telling him to either wash his laundry at work or ejuculate into tissue or something just so he wasn't bringing it home. I figured if I didn't "see it" I wouldn't think about it and then I wouldn't be so concerned with it all the time. He says now, that "he just doesn't need it now" and, "because I don't want him doing it he isn't". I definitly don't believe that he's stopped. But at least I'm not seeing it brought home anymore, I think he must be using the tissue idea. How am I supposed to know if he is or isn't anyway? So I don't bring it up anymore.
Out of all of this, I guess it comes down to the fact that after everyting he has done, he doesn't understand that HE is the one who has caused me to be an insecure, second guessing myself person. I wasn't like that before.
My ex husband never did any of these things (at least not that I knew of), and went on to cheat on me. So if he's (my husband now) doing what he's doing....how can he NOT be cheating. If I am faitfully his, in every way, why can't he be like that to me. I would never dream of doing anything like that to him. A. because he and I are together and I dont' need it, AND B. I would think that he would be hurt by my actions, and I would never want that.
It just doesn't make sense to me. Is he just that much of an insensitive guy that he doesn't understand? Or does he just care too much about his own wants/ needs/ feelings?
This all just drives me crazy.